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can the post office find marijuana seeds

Seeds held at post office.

I’m just saying that Growers Choice has no business saying seeds are legal in America when by the Federal Controlled Substances act they aren’t. I’ve ordered seeds many times but I’m in a legal state. I know nothing is going to happen and all the feds will do is seize them and send me a notice of seizure. Who knows what some redneck Sheriff in West Virginia is going to do. They can arrest you. I doubt that would happen but the possibility exists. As for the cops testing the seeds, if they come in packs that say Tuti Fruity Pineapple Bang and have THC Level 22% on the package itn could be a problem.

I don’t want to argue about it. I’m just disgusted with a seed company making the statement that seeds are legal in the United States when they’re actually not. But the cannabis industry is full of false statements so no surprise. I looked at other seed sites and it seems like the "They’re legal in the United States" is common practice. Keeps potential customers from getting cold feet. They should just tell the truth.

Nizza
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i think there is a gray area though between seeds sold for growing and those for novelty

its almost like a smoke shop selling a tobacco pipe instead of a bong right? I don’t really know I’m not a lawyer, but I would think that it would be a good starting point to see what people are saying when they say it is illegal to buy seeds to grow and to buy seeds for novelty purposes. It is legal as long as its under .3% thc or something stupid

hemp is legal now and they’re having problems with too potent of hemp crops with the federal %

Nizza
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I guess the .3% thc applies to Hemp..
So really are they going to try and charge you for getting seeds from the mail and then prove it is actually MJ and not something else? I wonder how this legality works.

you could say apple seeds are 40% thc mombo wombo seeds right?

I could only see this done on a legal level with a large crop. I wouldn’t worry at all if home growing, the seed company selling you may want to worry though.

racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Nizza
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thats what I’m saying, the process of them to prove you bought ten cannabis seeds or whatever and then you conspiring to produce x amount of cannabis is a big crap shoot . They will either take it or not, I wouldn’t think they would be like hey wait here and click a button then cops arrive and lock u up lol.. and what exactly is the fine for having said "cannabis seeds"

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there are good practices though when buying seeds. I used to not use my debit card now i do..
It is easier than sending cash and idgaf
but Its different for everyone i understand that

perhaps only buying up to 100$ at a time so that way you arent at a huge loss if one order goes missing. Usually the seed seller will take responsibility somewhat if something happens and they offer shipping to you as well

racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Nizza
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racerboy71
bud bootlegger

thats what I’m saying, the process of them to prove you bought ten cannabis seeds or whatever and then you conspiring to produce x amount of cannabis is a big crap shoot . They will either take it or not, I wouldn’t think they would be like hey wait here and click a button then cops arrive and lock u up lol.. and what exactly is the fine for having said "cannabis seeds"

there are good practices though when buying seeds. I used to not use my debit card now i do..
It is easier than sending cash and idgaf
but Its different for everyone i understand that

perhaps only buying up to 100$ at a time so that way you arent at a huge loss if one order goes missing. Usually the seed seller will take responsibility somewhat if something happens and they offer shipping to you as well

Nizza
Well-Known Member
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Nizza
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Budzbuddha
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Postal hold is different than customs hold . had some seeds sit in customs for a bit then they were released. The package was opened but because of a particular way this bank did its stealth . I always got.

Custom holds are the ones that grab your shit.

OGBudz
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BarnBuster
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21 U.S. Code § 802 – Definitions

also consider this when checking the USPS database to find out "Where is my package"?

"According to the website Ars, a federal drug investigation reveals how the United States Postal Service’s (USPS) law enforcement unit can use IP logs on the postal tracking website to investigate crimes.

“The USPS database reflected that an individual using a computer or other device with IP address 75.67.6.214 accessed the USPS Track ‘n Confirm website to follow the progress of both the Florida Parcel and Bates Parcel #1,”Dowd wrote.

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“What’s most bizarre about this, is the case was tipped off by an algorithm, a system that mines Track N’ Confirm user-data in order to detect suspicious activity, has triggered the investigation,”

"According to FBI Agent James Spiropoulos, investigators accessed a Postal Service computer system that "incorporates a Mail Isolation Control and Tracking (MICT) program which photographs and captures a image of every mail piece that is processed."

but the reality of anything happening out of a simple seed seizure is very slim. The DOJ has bigger things to worry about than your seeds. But don’t kid yourself that the information can’t be entered in a database somewhere for use in the future.

USPS Office of Inspector General

U.S. Postal Inspection Service Handling of Suspected Marijuana Packages

Objective

Our objective was to determine whether the U.S. Postal Inspection Service has efficient and effective controls to manage the Administrative Non-Mailability Protocol (ANP) program.

Postal inspectors are federal law enforcement officers responsible for enforcing laws that defend the nation’s mail system from illegal or dangerous use. In 2016, the Postal Inspection Service implemented the ANP program, which is an administrative procedure used to detain, document, and process mail packages that are reasonably suspected of containing marijuana from the mailstream.

Unlike in criminal investigations, the ANP program does not require postal inspectors to obtain search warrants to open detained packages. Rather, they request consent from mailers or addressees to open detained packages. If there is no response after 21 days, packages are declared abandoned and can be opened. When identified as non-mailable items, their contents are seized and disposed and mailable items are returned to the original addressees. Due to this process, the Postal Inspection Service has determined that abandoned packages are not used as evidence in criminal investigations; however, information about the packages, such as an address, may be used to support new or ongoing criminal investigations. This program was established primarily to remove marijuana from the mailstream.

The Postal Inspection Service had [redacted] ANP sites to process suspected packages from the western U.S. During July 2018, the Postal Inspection Service established the [redacted] to serve as a central processing location for the mailing of suspected marijuana packages from areas without an ANP site. In fiscal year (FY) 2019, the Postal Inspection Service processed 54,877 packages suspected of containing marijuana at both the [redacted] and ANP sites.

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Findings

Opportunities exist for the Postal Inspection Service to enhance management of the ANP program. Specifically, in FY 2019 we found:

USPS Office of Inspector General

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service’s narcotics program is intended to protect U.S. Postal Service employees at nearly 32,000 facilities from the dangers of handling packages containing illegal narcotics and ensuring public trust in the mail. The Postal Inspection Service conducts investigations of individuals attempting to use the mail for drug trafficking. In fiscal year 2015, the Postal Inspection Service seized about 34,000 pounds of marijuana from the mailstream.

When postal employees suspect a package contains marijuana or any illegal drug, they must [redacted], inform a supervisor, and contact the Postal Inspection Service for guidance. [Redacted].

We initiated this audit to address allegations regarding postal employees’ handling of packages suspected of containing marijuana at seven post offices in the Capital Metro, Great Lakes, Pacific, and Western areas.

Our objective was to assess the Postal Inspection Service’s and Postal Service’s handling of packages suspected of containing marijuana.

What the OIG Found

Postal Inspection Service and Postal Service officials did [redacted].

Postal Inspection Service procedures allowed packages [redacted]. Specifically:

The Postal Inspection Service instructed employees at four post offices to [redacted]. In at least one instance, [redacted].

Postal inspectors [redacted].

Lastly, although postal facilities were secured, employees at three post offices [redacted]. All three facilities took corrective actions by providing additional security for these packages.

These conditions occurred because the practice that allows postal inspectors discretion [redacted]. Postal Inspection Service did not have clear and comprehensive guidance for [redacted]. Further, post office personnel were not always sufficiently trained to provide additional security for packages suspected of containing marijuana.

Insufficient controls over handling and tracking packages suspected of containing marijuana from initial retrieval from the mail to final disposition increases the risk these packages could be lost, stolen, mishandled, or undetected. This could expose employees to harm or danger, foster criminal activity, adversely affect drug investigations and prosecutions, and negatively impact the Postal Service’s brand, and the integrity of the mail.

What the OIG Recommended

We recommended management implement a nationwide policy for handling, tracking, and providing additional security for packages suspected of containing marijuana to reduce the risk of these packages being lost or stolen; and develop training to ensure responsible personnel understand their roles and responsibilities.